WEBVTT 00:00:27.038 --> 00:00:29.038 Craig Cherry: have a Darcy Miller Commissioner of Mental Health and Social Services 00:00:31.042 --> 00:00:33.042 Craig Cherry: Brenda Casey Commissioner of Emergency Services 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:39.240 Stewart Rosenwasser: evening 00:00:41.189 --> 00:00:43.189 Craig Cherry: we have Karen Edelman Reyes County Attorney's Office 00:00:45.144 --> 00:00:47.144 Craig Cherry: Julia Dollinger Community member 00:00:50.432 --> 00:00:52.432 Craig Cherry: now they Esposito the executive director of the Orange County Human Rights Commission 00:00:53.926 --> 00:00:55.926 Craig Cherry: Gary abrahamson Orange County Legal Aid Society 00:00:57.869 --> 00:00:59.869 Craig Cherry: dr. Kristen young the president of SUNY Orange 00:01:02.117 --> 00:01:04.117 Craig Cherry: on Jarvis executive director Newburgh memories 00:01:06.108 --> 00:01:08.108 Craig Cherry: Rodriguez president of my Formula Ink 00:01:11.913 --> 00:01:13.913 Craig Cherry: naughty Allen executive director of Mental Health Association in Orange County 00:01:14.583 --> 00:01:16.583 Nadia Allen: good evening everybody good to be here 00:01:18.900 --> 00:01:20.900 Craig Cherry: thank you Christian mon out molinelli the executive director of Honor 00:01:30.378 --> 00:01:32.378 Craig Cherry: Kelly Ann Coastal area executive director Fearless excuse me fearless and with us also this evening where we have the pleasure of having sheriff called the boys 00:01:34.631 --> 00:01:36.631 Craig Cherry: do we have a system under Sheriff Anthony weed 00:01:57.177 --> 00:01:59.315 Craig Cherry: is agency tracking reviewing the use of force in identifying misconduct internal 00:02:09.743 --> 00:02:11.898 Craig Cherry: that ability for misconduct recruiting and support supporting Excellence Excellence of personnel training continuing education and support for officer well-being we 00:02:40.728 --> 00:02:42.728 Craig Cherry: tonight's meeting though we have a different set of range of topics which everyone can see on their agenda 00:02:58.315 --> 00:03:00.315 Craig Cherry: and historically police agencies have been in the front line and response to Mental Health crisis has incidents of domestic violence family disputes juvenile delinquency drug overdose homelessness and many other circumstances that caused extreme hardship and Trauma 00:03:25.807 --> 00:03:28.071 Craig Cherry: Jake publicized events in our country recently have led to conversations for improvements and responding to high stress emotional and often volatile calls for help and our goal this evening here is to have a conversation on how to best serve the members of the Sheriff's Office and responding to these types of calls and what we can do to reduce the violence that can also reduce the amount of calls that we have to deal with on an everyday basis and we will 00:03:58.740 --> 00:04:01.163 Craig Cherry: first cover our topics are covered not use of non-use police resources and we are going to first visit our Mental Health Services and our social services agencies and what support they currently have what they can provide anayvale what they currently do providing Avail to the sheriff's officer response to crisis calls I will ask there are seeing Miller our Commissioner of Mental Health and Social Services to give an overviewsir 00:04:22.563 --> 00:04:24.563 Craig Cherry: what we're gonna do we're gonna go through the guidance of what you do for response mobile mental health things of that nature all those Services you have and if there's any suggestions that we can Garner from ourselves any members of the public in order to maybe improve on those services or comment on those services 00:04:24.389 --> 00:04:26.389 Craig Cherry: thank you Darcy 00:04:30.910 --> 00:04:32.910 Craig Cherry: this weekend 00:05:00.714 --> 00:05:03.076 Darcie Miller: thank you so first and foremost we have a very strong collaborative relationship with the sheriff's office with the sheriff and the undersheriff and all of their staff we have each other cell phones so we call whenever it's necessary to make sure that we are connecting to support the people in Orange County so I feel that that relationship has been strengthened through the years and really makes a difference and how we respond to crises within the community we've had some really intensive 00:05:31.628 --> 00:05:33.942 Darcie Miller: it happened just over the past six weeks together and between the mental hygiene Services law enforcement response with the sheriff's office in the lead and or support role we've really managed to take situations that could have escalated beyond control and have everyone come out safely so I really appreciate that the collaborative support we in the mental hygiene system your the department about how the oversees the substance abuse mental health healthor 00:06:02.698 --> 00:06:05.056 Darcie Miller: Disability Services across the county we have a responsibility to ensure that we have a plethora of services to respond to the needs of not only individuals who are struggling with those challenges but also their family members and we do that with a collection of nonprofit and for-profit services across the county we to undertook a number of mapping exercises over the past five years one was the mental health Juvenile Justice project with the Sheriff's Office office was sitting at the table 00:06:59.764 --> 00:07:02.481 Darcie Miller: one of the greatest things that came out of both of those efforts where we talked about how we currently collaborate with law enforcement and how we would like to in the future we came up with a design that we think has improved how we work together I will say that our mobile response team and the Mental Health Association that did the helpline and now does our 311 crisis call center which I'll talk a little bit more about in a moment they've been working collaboratively with law enforcement for over 3 decades meaning if a Paul comes in too longfirst man 00:07:32.843 --> 00:07:35.133 Darcie Miller: with someone who has a psychiatric crisis they call the mobile response team they correspond together and help to stabilize a situation either to have someone remain in their home with a safety plan in place and order to be transported safely to the hospital either voluntarily or involuntarily for further evaluation with the collaboration that really with our County Executive support Steve new house Brendan Casey Craig Cherry the team and Emergency Operations Center 00:08:03.809 --> 00:08:06.463 Darcie Miller: our Department of Mental Health and our three providers Mental Health Association access of course for living and independent living we have been able to develop a co-located call center which is currently at the emergency Operation Center sitting on the same floors or 911 call takers we received the call assessment happens and if we need assistance from 911 or vice versa they need assistance from our professional call takers at the Mental Health Associationworked 00:08:35.264 --> 00:08:37.619 Darcie Miller: other to respond appropriately to respond in the community the mobile Response Team done by access of course for living goes out that either go at request of law enforcement and or they request law enforcement as needed or go solo depending on what the circumstances are that collaborative response helps to divert people from further going into justice system when it's not necessary helps to keep themsafe 00:09:07.696 --> 00:09:10.136 Darcie Miller: the home and or to go to the hospital and those interventions had been hugely successful again for three decades of them working together with having of the 311 number it's easy for all of our providers as well as our community citizens to be able to remember the number to call when they're in crisis are in need and to be able to respond in a appropriate way the independent living the peer supports they provideI don't know 00:10:00.444 --> 00:10:02.815 Darcie Miller: substance use we know that law enforcement has been the first responder they have been the the life-saving responders for those who need Narcan administered for those who are overdosing from opioids we are working on expanding the work that we do together with law enforcement through the use of 311 and hope not handcuffs which is a not-for-profit that's currently going into long law enforcement agencies to provide support to individuals who come in 00:10:30.651 --> 00:10:32.651 Darcie Miller: in addition we are looking to expand how we collaborate when law enforcement does administer Narcan to ensure that the information from that individual gets back into the mental hygiene system so that we are able to follow up work to engage someone to connect them into treatment to prevent future overdose and to really help them in the recovery path 00:10:35.936 --> 00:10:37.936 Craig Cherry: and I'm not even you like to weigh in on some of those comments as well 00:10:55.635 --> 00:10:57.635 Nadia Allen: yeah I thank you for that and I'm not happy and I do have faith exception 311 again our community for her to respond to those types I think 00:10:56.963 --> 00:10:58.963 Craig Cherry: okay I think you might be you might be broken up 00:10:57.119 --> 00:10:59.119 Darcie Miller: smashing next year 00:11:28.824 --> 00:11:31.224 Nadia Allen: can you hear me can you hear me now this is better okay thank you have to get even closer than I thought okay sorry about that what I'm what I was started saying is that these things have enough you won money in our community in April 1919 we have seen a much better response that much more conservative response those types of default in our community which of course ill better outcome besides the amazing collaboration that we have with our partners of course Department of Health being 00:12:00.053 --> 00:12:02.321 Nadia Allen: independent living and access with mobile response and access with the peer Services we also have beauty of being co-located as Darcy mention with 911 and we have developed a very great Synergy in understanding each other and support each other's needs also you will see that we have been responding to some callers that team too to be 00:12:31.961 --> 00:12:34.242 Nadia Allen: puts it definitely need that otherwise might in Tango with the police and unnecessarily do because they are able to reach out to us who are able to completely redirect you know they're or diffuse or crisis therefore decrease the need for police person died so all in all I have to say the numbers of calls have increased significantly since its Inception and we have been 00:12:52.792 --> 00:12:54.792 Nadia Allen: number of all things in Orange County when it comes to covid and you know affecting informations anything people know that there is a number with talented qualified presidential and clinical support which is unheard of to be able to support the needs of our 00:13:23.967 --> 00:13:26.780 Craig Cherry: thank you I mean I mean many of the conversation out there sometimes it gets confusing to members of the public when they see some incidents on TV than they receive a lot of attention and will make comments such as you know why the police have to go to mental health calls why do they have to go to domestic violence calls and the complexities of that and why law enforcement needs to make sure that they aren't theywork in parallel with these services andnot not 00:13:41.687 --> 00:13:43.687 Craig Cherry: separate and the May perhaps the undersheriff can weigh in on how the difficult decisions are made by police and how to handle these calls and what they know and they're training to go to mental health calls and that they know when they need to call for the professional help at the sea 00:14:37.492 --> 00:14:40.212 Craig Cherry: and I says I would like we said earlier to medium historically police are expected to go to these calls and try to remedy you know with the with the tools they have in their pocket and many times it's a challenge and but they're expected to stand up and do the right job and they don't sometimes is forgotten how much is done the background with all the support services regards to training or having to come to the cyst you are bringing someone in for help and those are the many many tools that you use and youuse and they're there every day but sometimesand this 00:14:39.923 --> 00:14:41.923 Craig Cherry: mixed 00:15:23.773 --> 00:15:25.773 Darcie Miller: sorry yeah 00:15:55.459 --> 00:15:57.459 Darcie Miller: okay so my ahead of the curve when it comes to Crisis Intervention training which is really a training to give police officers and deputies more Tools in their toolbox as you said to together with understanding what services are available throughout the mental hygiene system that can offer support but also to provide training 00:16:26.603 --> 00:16:28.902 Darcie Miller: how to stabilize the situation using your negotiation skills and they work together our Police Academy here has agreed that all recruits and come through have Crisis Intervention training and they do not only do they receive the didactic training but they do role modeling and they do play the role of individuals and play out the scene in the classroom and I will tell you one of my stamp the Irma mentalis 00:16:59.327 --> 00:17:01.705 Darcie Miller: very active involved in helping to support that training and she's impressed every time with the officers not only the skills that they bring to the table but their willingness to to add to those with this experience of training together we also then have a formal system that's together for I think there's a 12 police departments across the county who are currently providing reports to a our department as well as the prices continuum the Mental Health Association 311one 00:17:31.834 --> 00:17:34.244 Darcie Miller: and we then do follow up so they go out in the field and they respond to somebody with significant or with mental health needs either independent or with mobile Response Team being on the scene they send their police report to us they serve circumstances of what happened the end outcome of the call and then we do follow-up from the call center to again further stabilize your there was a time when I would get a call from man forcement saying that they done 30 00:18:04.383 --> 00:18:06.844 Darcie Miller: things with somebody please interactions with somebody before they reached my office or the mental hygiene system that very rarely happens now we're going out together and I know certainly under Sheriff Jones and speak when there's significant need in the community is SWAT team was out on his team recently that really could have gone very badly and ended in loss of life but the collaborative work done between both mental health system his Sheriff's Officewell 00:19:04.621 --> 00:19:07.094 Nadia Allen: I just did think of a reminder no I appreciate I just wanna add just one comment to what Darcy said regarding the reports that the triple one receives from those special calls the beauty of that is beautiful not only as Garth said because really prevented you know the reoccurrence of some of those calls these because you learned how to how to respond better to those colors but also during our meetings we meet regularly on a weeklyand 00:19:31.479 --> 00:19:33.479 Nadia Allen: able to review those into almost like a case study and learn from it and improve upon our response what work time and what could be better next time How Could providers and the police response better because variables that have been incredibly helpful movement of the follower of services that we provide and of course the abroad 00:19:56.214 --> 00:19:58.214 Craig Cherry: thank you and we do have a public comment or tooth I'm just going to hold on for a second I just want to assure them that we will get to their question in regards to the services that the Mental Health Association and the mental health provides that we feel that that message for what those programs are available to the underserved Community are they getting that message out there do they know where to call or who to call 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:29.177 Nadia Allen: yes I mean we could always use greater little right and we are always in the process of doing that we have been able to paint some funding and some Grant to preserve its ability to we've had we've had we have had several of radio ads Billboards on the painted boards we've had some you know permanent Billboards and we also have a fairy isn't social media 00:20:58.705 --> 00:21:01.240 Nadia Allen: you are trying a new remote have to obtain several items personal item difficulty there were happy as everybody is having these days during hope but is the fact that we are no longer to be attending for events and and Gathering and congregate or and in the past we would be able to help them and going to conferences and attend meetingsI have to go 00:21:30.129 --> 00:21:32.400 Nadia Allen: people can do a better job so those handouts that we have those promotional items were were given them out and not at the freak anticipate but we are now putting packed together protecting special Grant to wear it with the penne with baling it out we do our very best but unfortunately as you may know with what supports that we receive from the county which is amazing opportunity very lifting overall in 00:21:46.018 --> 00:21:48.018 Nadia Allen: that we have for our programs for their pet Market by our best and we appreciate these like these that we can continue to promote the through on anything you want to add Star Citizen 00:22:19.167 --> 00:22:22.077 Darcie Miller: I would only add that you do every time that we have a conversation about you know whether it's the impact of the opioid epidemic or the impact of this current pandemic on people's mental wellness and or a mental hygiene challenges they we ask the reporters to include 311 the 1-800 832 1200 so is going out quite often in those kind of Articles as well so we appreciate the Orange County government web page the county executivehas mentioned in his you know end of the dayas regards 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.319 Nadia Allen: and also a Darcy with project hope she's the femur response for impact of covid in our community the number that the advertised and I've seen it on TV on mainstream TV on cable TV radio project folks out there are going to be you know link to our 311 system so people go to go through and one but calling project 00:23:33.657 --> 00:23:36.290 Craig Cherry: thank you I'm going to lean on kellyanne for a moment just regards to fearless and you know obviously you know your relationship with law enforcement on when they go to domestic calls many times domestic calls are mental health related or they're just abusive and the police are limited with what types of actions they can take and the you know Fearless has been there to obviously help them mitigate or at least resolve temporarilyabout the situation that they go tothat 00:23:43.323 --> 00:23:45.323 Craig Cherry: news a alternative other than you know arrested to resolve a situation in a high-stress family situation 00:24:15.399 --> 00:24:18.122 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: thank you and yes certainly you know ultimately I think it's important again I'm kellyanne fearless formerly safe homes of Orange County for those of you who may recognize this from our former name you know I would want to say first and foremost I mean ultimately our organization has had a really wonderful relationship with the Orange County Sheriff's Department I'm going into my 11th year here and long before myself theOrange County Sheriff's department has worked closelywith our 00:24:49.199 --> 00:24:51.512 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: ization and as many of you know the laws have changed significantly over the last couple of decades when it comes to addressing intimate partner violence and recognizing that many of the laws that there really were created were understanding that you know domestic violence was deeply rooted in power and control and if there was ways to engage law enforcement and other systems in holding offenders accountable and enhancing the safety of victims and their children that we should do those things at any way possible and ultimately come from a place of realizing that 00:25:20.281 --> 00:25:22.281 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: have to work collaboratively I do think that oftentimes deputies and officers hands can be tied if there are challenges in being able to make arrests based upon the information that they're being given by the parties at the time of the incident but we always operate from a place of leaving individual better than you found them and so even if there's not an ability to make an arrest leaving that in that individual with a hotline number in a way to engage with service provider and pre covid right before actually 00:25:53.734 --> 00:25:56.126 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: started the sheriff supported in-service training for all of their deputies and so had the opportunity to come and engage for for our blocks on an in-service just to to you know I think you have to up skill every single year with domestic violence it's important it's a muscle that has to be worked in assessing for power and control and assessing for primary aggressor and it's also about building individual relationships those trainings allowed us to engage in meet many of the deputies who may be on the road or working in the I'll Department around orders of protection and not only 00:26:27.868 --> 00:26:30.486 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: want to be seen as a support for victims in our communities but we absolutely want to be seen as a support for the deputies and officers that are on the road because lots of times I really want to acknowledge that officers struggle with having the inability to make an arrest based upon the information they have but they really want to be able to leave the individual they've identified as a victim with access to support and services and so even since that in service and even prior to that and surface I've had individuals deputies call our hotline as well as engage our advocates in reaching out to many of the individuals that theyand if I 00:27:00.668 --> 00:27:03.046 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: victims to save contact numbers because we know that the research supports that the sooner you can give victims at information the more informed decisions they can make in their lives around you know what their options maybe regardless of how the system may or may not be able to intervene and help I do think it's really important also to recognize that all of the things that we've had to do over the last almost 10 months around addressing this pandemic and around maintaining not only our own Health and Wellnessbut those 00:27:31.821 --> 00:27:33.821 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: around us have had significant impact on domestic violence victims and their children and we know not only here locally but throughout the state that though there's been a decrease in calls to Child Protective Services in the mandated hotline which we can attest to that being blessed kids in school less kids around mandated reporters the close to the hotline at Fearless were up almost 50% over the calls last year at the same time and so we 00:28:02.831 --> 00:28:05.233 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: 20 with almost 10,000 crisis hotline calls and so we and we've also turned more people away for shelter this year that 2020 than we ever have before and so unfortunately I'm you know even though we have been quarantined and social distancing these are some really effective additional tactics that have a tab users have used to their advantage and the delay in courts have also impacted but I will say that the important part is building individual relationships because ultimately definitely this is about 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:36.677 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: strategize when we are facing some of these limitations restrictions and really important things we're doing around the health and wellness of our communities on how do we effectively work together so that we can continue to keep victim safety and offender accountability in the center of the work that we're doing and certainly the sheriff in the undersheriff as well as all of the deputies there have been engaging with our agency individually and collectively over the years and I think that this is about about figuring out ways 00:29:07.724 --> 00:29:10.116 Kellyann Kostyal-Larrier: to address systemic gaps because sometimes it's just our systems work a little bit differently but how do we work together to figure out if there's ways that we can work and in a way that that can have a better in fact we also pre coded with the support of the sheriff and the jail had been running for years a support group in the jail as well so that we're also working from a trauma responsive place in addressing that you know many of the individuals who are even temporarily incarcerated have years of history of trauma and abuse and so I 00:29:35.229 --> 00:29:37.229 Craig Cherry: thank you I just got an acknowledged the sheriff has his hand up 00:29:49.652 --> 00:29:51.652 Craig Cherry: we can't hear the sheriff yet 00:30:06.632 --> 00:30:08.632 Craig Cherry: okay sure if we have we are muted I think 00:30:15.556 --> 00:30:17.556 Craig Cherry: and perhaps you can assist there 00:30:44.550 --> 00:30:46.550 Craig Cherry: okay the sheriff said it's not working as mic so we will 00:31:13.108 --> 00:31:15.333 Darcie Miller: quick quick can I add something while we wait for the sheriff to give his mic back on because I think it's really important to acknowledge the sheriff's office is a member and they have a representative that works with our multidisciplinary team working for child protective services as a collaborative between Child Protective Services law enforcement and mental hygiene system responding to very high end unfortunately abuse against children in our community they're also part of our our Juvenile Justice committees they 00:31:44.326 --> 00:31:46.699 Darcie Miller: our collaborators working closely with our child support unit which last year pulled in 44 million dollars to support parents who are divorced and caring for children that's an incredible collaborative that we do together with them and they also do Project Life Saver which helps people who are struggling with autism to be able to track and monitor in case a child was to to abscond and and be 00:31:59.069 --> 00:32:01.069 Craig Cherry: hey guys I just like knowledge that legislator Heinz has joined the meeting good evening 00:32:01.925 --> 00:32:03.925 Carl DuBois: Craig you got me now 00:32:03.683 --> 00:32:05.683 Craig Cherry: we got it out Sheriff 00:32:07.811 --> 00:32:09.811 Carl DuBois: I'm just going to say something or my my aunt 00:32:39.802 --> 00:32:41.802 Carl DuBois: no I just want to also just Kelly touched on it I've been Sheriff going to my 19th year now and you know we've had a good collaboration with first it was safe homes now it was Fearless now it's Fearless we've taken part in their events and you know have always supported them have attended their you know events in October and so on and so forth but one thing that I really want to stress to everyone is that are 00:33:12.267 --> 00:33:14.576 Carl DuBois: the commission of a credit law enforcement agencies and the New York state division of Criminal Justice Services requires that we have in service training mandatory in service training on a variety of topics which includes you know Social Services domestic violence so on and so forth so it's not just we get it in the police account it's not just the deputies get in the police academy it's constant and I think as Kelly mentioned also that you know obviously over the years Trends change and you know 00:33:35.482 --> 00:33:37.482 Carl DuBois: have to you know keep up with those Trends and you know we get our you know instruction from the from the professionals but there is an in-service training mandatory in service training that is the minimum of 32 hours per year but it doesn't stop at that that's just the minimum as far as accreditation standards go but we go way beyond that 00:34:09.711 --> 00:34:12.105 Craig Cherry: carriers was a put together the final guidance for us to be able to use as a guide for what we're doing and what we're looking at regards to the plan and we have a Litany of services not-for-profit county services for youth programs family services at reach drug abuse there's a ton of programs out there but we want to find a way to puzzle those programs in 00:34:42.345 --> 00:34:45.156 Craig Cherry: it really been able to help the sheriff's office in their mission how can I not for profits are going to religious faith based groups how can they help get that out there so that especially in communities of color where they may be apprehensive to not want to deal with law enforcement how can those organizations help in getting being that arbitrary to make to put a to be sort of a bond to help law enforcement connect with that community may be right you cansunlight most what you're doing in the city of Newburghon time 00:34:47.695 --> 00:34:49.695 Craig Cherry: me give us well development as to what we can do 00:35:16.016 --> 00:35:18.406 Ray Rodriguez: sure thanks so much Craig and thanks for everybody for having me and I just want to say hello also to all the people that are on the call just for taking the time to be on this so very grateful for that so so my company is charged with Behavioral Health coaching coordination and consultation so I'm currently contract with Orange County department mental health providing coordination for the city of Newburgh Wellness Recoveryworth 00:35:46.998 --> 00:35:49.232 Ray Rodriguez: connections program which is run by judge Paul track T and so what we do there is we help individuals who are involved in the criminal justice system to get connected to Mental Health Services in the community and give them a lot of support throughout their time with the court and we're also we also collaborate with the drug court and the opioid Court over at the city of Newburgh Courthouse with Lindsay Frusciante andyou know 00:36:19.367 --> 00:36:21.750 Ray Rodriguez: fat we work with the sheriff's office in terms of when they bring individuals over to the courthouse and we have interviews with them and we talked with them and they've been a great collaboration to talk with they're very well trained in terms of D escalation you know we've seen a lot of times when some escalations happened downstairs and they're they're really really well trained and being able to diffuse some of those situationsin 00:36:52.183 --> 00:36:54.485 Ray Rodriguez: into that I also work with I'm also a board member of to community organizations in the city of Newburgh that's impact incorporated as well as link Community organization which is where in partnership with rough go and we're renovating the First United Methodist Church Saint on Liberty Street currently and in 2022 we're going to be able to have hopefully when everything opens up we'll be able to have events and lot of coordination with different organizations there and one of the ideas 00:37:23.030 --> 00:37:25.393 Ray Rodriguez: that I've been thinking about in terms of this reinvention and re-imagination of the sheriff's office has to really be able to bring some of the officers over there to our community establishment there and get them involved with the community on a one-to-one basis in the group basis you know one of the things we know is just to build trust I've been working with the city of Newburgh police art meant forseveral 00:37:54.008 --> 00:37:56.399 Ray Rodriguez: years on different projects and you know we've been able to build some trusting relationships there and in terms of you know bike giveaways and handing out masks and doing a whole bunch of different things in the city of Newburgh and you know what really comes to mind is making sure that we see faces and we build conversations and we build relationships on a human level that's what I've seen with my my work anda noob 00:38:26.952 --> 00:38:29.362 Ray Rodriguez: I am so grateful to be a part of that and I think that's something we can really look into right you know sometimes we are uncomfortable going to neighborhoods that were not familiar with so you know I definitely love to be a liaison for any officers or you know individuals that would love to be a part of some Community organizations in the city of Newburgh because it is a great city is a bunch of great people there it's very Dynamic it's very engaging but you know we also know it's a city and 00:38:58.027 --> 00:39:00.390 Ray Rodriguez: type problems just like anywhere else in the country so that's that's to something I definitely wanted to say and I would love to find ways to bridge that Gap definitely willing to do that with with the Sheriff's Office and you know we look forward to building some conversations and I know there's you know there's very difficult conversations that are probably not happening in our community so let's try to have those you know and let's see what we can buildgather 00:39:22.866 --> 00:39:24.866 Ray Rodriguez: was you know like I said I've worked with the city of Newburgh Police Department especially even though in the CIT program and all the great work they're doing there and the great training but you know relationships are everything and and if we can start to continue to build that trust together and make it even better this year I think it will benefit all of us in the community 00:39:32.323 --> 00:39:34.323 Craig Cherry: because thank you Chris do you find that you get your share of people that they come in contact with the Sheriff's Office and honor 00:39:45.102 --> 00:39:47.102 Craig Cherry: okay are you Chris 00:40:33.375 --> 00:40:35.983 Craig Cherry: while we're working at Chris's audio we can I just wanted to ask you a Chris question as far as being able to get those I assume they have a way of getting those resources out of many people that they serve when we see all the resources in our plan you know you don't realize just how many of them there are out there and there's a lot of good ones and that's me that's missed by a lot of people if we can just find a way to maybe have that as something the sheriff's can use as a tool to be able to give the people out in that when they're out there interacting in the field basically just a list of Agesa date 00:41:29.568 --> 00:41:32.444 Craig Cherry: we are going to move on to our next topic of unless you have any comments if anyone has any comments what we talked about so far just so you know we do have we have one question from the public what you maybe I'll just we'll do that now so that we can have that there was a question about Sheriff's Office do police have to respond to all medical calls Sheriff if you are under share if you want to weigh in on that you know they're askingare you required to respond to all mencourse 00:42:00.685 --> 00:42:03.105 Kenneth Jones: Wild Eagle required but as part of the 911 Response Center certainly police officers have significant basic training and medical events and often they're the closest and can be there in a matter of a few minutes where ambulance and other support take a bit longer in all the communities so I don't think there's a requirement by by law per sebut 00:42:38.871 --> 00:42:41.102 Craig Cherry: thank you and I will lead us into the role of 911 and the commissioner case he's going to give an overview of 911 so people understand a lot of people do not understand the Dynamics behind calling 911 when you call you're calling for everything from a serious violent felony to cat up a tree and there's a lot of behind the scenes that we do here at 911 to get people the help they need which isn't always a law enforcement response Kris Jenner 00:43:10.797 --> 00:43:13.494 Brendan Casey: yeah good at good evening my name is Brandi Casey I'm the commissioner of emergency services for Orange County and in that capacity one of the divisions that I oversee is 911 Orange County is a single my mom one piece at County and what that means is that any person who dials 911 in Orange County in any of the Cities towns or Villages or from a cell phone for passing through will ring in to the 911 call center herePolice Department still haveand then 00:43:43.404 --> 00:43:45.685 Brendan Casey: numbers so you still can call directly into a police department so we don't necessarily capture all of the calls or information of things that are happening out in the county but we get the Lion's Share of it we recently put a new radio system in place where all police fire and EMS are on the same radio system so it does give you better situational awareness of what's going on out there all of our dispatchers are rain in National 00:44:14.878 --> 00:44:17.161 Brendan Casey: it's it's IA Ed dispatch system they have to ask a series of questions and the response is dictated by those standards that come out from the federal organizations so some of what we dispatch or things that we put out our Guided by our accreditation but we do have some flexibility when the call doesn't fit into a certain box and that's why it was it was 00:44:47.773 --> 00:44:50.185 Brendan Casey: such a good idea when we got together with Darcy and Mental Health Association of Orange County and kind of said look let's let's get one number let's consolidate all of those 10 digit numbers that are out there 1-800 this is 1/6 X and this for various social ills combine it into 311 and we have a large enough facility here we were able to accommodate them and get them on the call floor so we can get some interaction between 3 1tonight 00:45:19.606 --> 00:45:22.038 Brendan Casey: one it's worked out great I know we're talking about mental health calls before the Mental Health Association that's involved with 311 reported to me that last year they handled 13350 three calls which they termed the mental health call referral of that from 911 1191 working considered eating peaspeyman 00:45:53.158 --> 00:45:56.137 Brendan Casey: 911 so the people didn't call 311 they called 911 and of that 531 were priority edps which means that the caller indicated that the subject was violent or had some type of weapon so it's only about four percent of those mental health calls that go out for a police response where there's violence or weapons involved so it's a very small percentage I think we've been able to divert a lot of rules called Al's because of our relationship 00:45:54.263 --> 00:45:56.263 Brendan Casey: 311 00:46:25.048 --> 00:46:27.422 Brendan Casey: mobile mental health and mental health Association so it's not as large a percentage as you would think so I can answer any questions in regard to how we dispatch how how we put calls out I will mention I saw the call on the medical the question on the medical calls that is a police department prerogative most local police departments will upload every medical mistake policenot 00:46:57.260 --> 00:46:59.649 Brendan Casey: we'll go to certain levels of calls where it's life-threatening or there's some type of other issue at the scene but as the undersheriff stated all police officers go through basic first aid training they have a lot of them have the paddles in the cars the aedes they can revive people there are a lot of police officers who have EMT training there are a lot of guys that are vets now now that have come backMariah 00:47:47.852 --> 00:47:50.170 Craig Cherry: we have a question to of napali Coast we get to shortly we do have one comment which is from a Giselle it's are comma is really about the I'll read it but it's not one that we're going to be able to tackle here this evening but I just want to let her know we had the opportunity to see it and listen to it but we will it's more broader base than this panel is cast to 00:48:13.123 --> 00:48:15.595 Craig Cherry: challenge Arts at to resolve and she just wanted to thank everyone for these important issues and she had a few questions I'd like to see more solutions to what is not working communities like the city of Newburgh have the highest number of unemployment child poverty sex offenses High homeless population mental health issues issues of the four of ushouses 00:48:24.673 --> 00:48:26.673 Craig Cherry: although it makes it easier to get programming Services also at programming Services also adds two more mental health calls and quality of life issues 00:48:55.734 --> 00:48:58.096 Craig Cherry: also highlighted many inadequacies that we had better that would be good to hear more about what can be done we appreciate that comment that's a probably another conversation with a broader group you know what I understand what you're saying we all understand what you're saying our mission here was to work on some police reform issues and helping the Sheriff's Office meet the requirements of the Reform Act and we will you know we'll pass along your 00:49:00.294 --> 00:49:02.294 Craig Cherry: most of those people that may be able to answer that to you so thank you 00:49:33.915 --> 00:49:36.682 Craig Cherry: all right so if we have it if I want whenever anyone has any comments or are they want to exchange any ideas field please make sure you chime in don't wait for me to ask you or put you on the spot all right our final topic of the evening is law enforcement presence of schools law enforcement agencies that provide a security presence in schools are tasked with balancing a community's desire to ensure a safe and securing learningto that of a concern that Petepolice 00:50:06.446 --> 00:50:08.804 Craig Cherry: the schools can be counterproductive particularly in minority communities that we are seeing some conversations from people that believe that you know that in some of their schools they feel this may not be what they want so there is a balance now the sheriff's office is tasked with providing that healthy environment providing that security and how they meet the criteria that provides a safe word 00:50:14.516 --> 00:50:16.516 Craig Cherry: place without anyone feeling uncomfortable because of the police presence before we start legislature Hines as this hand up 00:50:23.997 --> 00:50:25.997 Craig Cherry: okay that we still don't hear it mr. Hines 00:50:55.942 --> 00:50:57.942 Meeting Organizer: sir 00:51:49.072 --> 00:51:51.072 Craig Cherry: was Ryan's if you don't mind we'll wait till you get your audio back and we'll have your Sheriff Jones start with Will present his comments all right under Sheriff 00:52:17.813 --> 00:52:20.300 Kenneth Jones: well thank you Craig and you covered a lot of ground there I think this has been a long road that led to police presence has in schools outside of urban areas large urban areas of a and police in their schools for many years but in suburban and rural areas not as much although there was a big push for SRO some number of years agotodayit's 00:52:26.584 --> 00:52:28.584 Kenneth Jones: more about security and and you can understand that is fueled by a variety of incidents occurred across the country 00:53:06.904 --> 00:53:09.153 Kenneth Jones: formulated a meeting with the county superintendents of all the school districts more than 10 years ago following such an incident to offer a program that we still have today but there really wasn't an appetite very frankly for it then and for a whole host of reasons as far as connecting two individuals regardless of their race I think that one of the best ways is to introduce police officershungry 00:53:37.951 --> 00:53:39.951 Kenneth Jones: is in settings where they are not law enforcement per se they're there to protect the students and the teachers and the staff and so that's a different relationship than responding into a community when you're called in for a different event and I think that provides many more Avenues to break build Bridges between police officers and the community that they serve so in that vein we're currently in eight districts 00:54:01.495 --> 00:54:03.495 Kenneth Jones: nineteen buildings at arrenge County and when we set out to do this we sent out with certain parameters our preference is to recruit from the district that are retiree we use virtually all retirees and we recruit from the districts in which they live preferably 00:54:08.091 --> 00:54:10.091 Kenneth Jones: only district and we have great difficulty doing that in is the school district of kiryas Joel 00:54:34.813 --> 00:54:36.813 Kenneth Jones: because there's not a bevy of retired Sedum from police agencies as you might imagine also on this call the person that's directly responsible for overseeing the school operations is assistant undersheriff weed and I'd like him to run through the meat and potatoes of the operation in order to clarify it for anyone that's watching or a members of the committee 00:54:37.886 --> 00:54:39.886 Carl DuBois: can you can you hear me 00:54:44.622 --> 00:54:46.622 Kenneth Jones: yes I give you a check 00:55:39.377 --> 00:55:41.377 Craig Cherry: can you give a how do you select the deputies that you assign in the schools 00:56:09.511 --> 00:56:11.810 Kenneth Jones: well that's why I like Tony we need to really get into the meat and potatoes of it we recruit through not only websites but we recruit word-of-mouth once once the detail is up and running a lot of Word of Mouth recruitment went went from the people working these schools in order to attract other people other like-minded people that work in the schools in their communities and I think that's a key element because when you draw from on your own Community you have investment in that 00:56:25.797 --> 00:56:27.797 Craig Cherry: regards to what Mo use its recommended Mo use be in place so it's clear what the lines of service you're providing to the school district are in place 00:56:41.203 --> 00:56:43.203 Kenneth Jones: yes we have you know where each school is contracted and the responsibilities of what the school district and the sheriff's office is clearly prescribed in that document 00:56:50.026 --> 00:56:52.026 Craig Cherry: the roles and responsibilities are clearly defined so that the number of the public was to ask a school yeah well what's the Sheriff's Office duties here every day they can answer them 00:56:57.857 --> 00:56:59.857 Kenneth Jones: if the school district can't they can ask the deputy and the deputy will tell them very clearly what their what their duties are 00:57:07.103 --> 00:57:09.103 Craig Cherry: as you experience I'm sure sounds like you've experienced all positive results and as far as relationships with these school districts 00:57:33.643 --> 00:57:36.109 Kenneth Jones: yes and and for a couple of reasons you know retirees tend to be about the same age as the administrators as opposed to say introducing very young officer internet environment which would be closer to the age of the students so they also have many years experience and that aids them and what they're doing and understand their there for security purposes to protect those students and to protectin 00:57:36.975 --> 00:57:38.975 Kenneth Jones: is in the teachers and the staff 00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:06.119 Kenneth Jones: so that they have a limited function as opposed to sros which used to be full-time officers very costly proposition they would teach class and do a host of other things where the people that we have assigned in schools do not engage in those events they're there for security of the school itself 00:58:11.571 --> 00:58:13.571 Kenneth Jones: sure 00:58:42.675 --> 00:58:45.033 Kenneth Jones: I mean like I said if you recruit from your own District you likely had children in that District I still have children in that District they you know police officers like many others tend to get engaged in their communities whether it's little league or American Legion or Elks clubs and and they meet a variety of young men and women that are school age during the course of those events so they know some right away and so that begins the bridging we also so keep them 00:59:07.605 --> 00:59:09.605 Kenneth Jones: tell his story we done because I don't want to steal all of it thunder and I know 00:59:14.419 --> 00:59:16.419 Anthony Weed: you covered the bulk of a what we do I can break down the training and the demographics of the deputies of 00:59:19.507 --> 00:59:21.507 Craig Cherry: Democrats may have some Merit 00:59:49.228 --> 00:59:51.529 Anthony Weed: okay so like the undercarriage said we hire retired police officers before we put them in the schools we give them 80 hours of training covering Advanced tactics medical wound packing tourniquet applications D escalation tactics Narcan training firearms training and then we put them in a school that they're going to be going into for eight hours to become aware of the policies procedures get the meat the ministry of Staff of those schools and the teachers 01:00:20.114 --> 01:00:22.359 Anthony Weed: and start building those relationships currently we have 40 deputies 29 of those are retired from NYPD 707 of them are retired from the New York State Police four of them are local PD ones from Westchester Saugerties Harriman and Woodbury the breakdown is we have two women 38 men out of that five of them are black 14 Hispanic and 21 of them are white right 01:00:43.874 --> 01:00:45.874 Anthony Weed: we are in 8 school districts 19 buildings throughout the county we can go over them if you'd like we're in BOCES or in a minisink schools I don't fall school's left and Dale Elementary which is in Wallkill School District Capital feel which is a private school in the Pine Bush School District 01:00:50.386 --> 01:00:52.386 Anthony Weed: formal schools tuxedo school and then schools of curious tol 01:01:22.691 --> 01:01:25.395 Anthony Weed: one of the things we were looking at when we were starting this will several things we wanted to be able to provide a package to the schools which included a Security Site assessment with a comprehensive report talking about how they can enhance their security from blocking certain doors adding cameras emergency protocols fire extinguisher placement Narcan medical equipment things like that we also wanted to be cost effectivesustainable fullpolice 01:01:55.970 --> 01:01:58.312 Anthony Weed: certain with Benefits you're talking a hundred and fifty a hundred seventy five two hundred thousand dollars a year depending on on agency and collective bargaining agreements where when we hire retired police officers it costs each building the total of thirty five thousand for the year which we felt was cost effective and sustainable it promotes interaction positive interaction with students the police officers get to know students done it on a first-name basis Elementary all the way up to high school like down the sheriff's a week 01:02:20.265 --> 01:02:22.265 Anthony Weed: put the officers into the school districts in which they reside because they already have a bond they have kids that went through the school kids that are going to school they've seen these kids growing up and they have a good understanding and good footprint of for interacting with them but also promotes positive interaction with the faculty and staff provides for a safe learning environment 01:02:50.926 --> 01:02:52.926 Anthony Weed: and also promotes positive interaction with our local law enforcement are school safety deputies are not there for say to make a rest so therefore school security make sure nobody comes and doesn't harm but if they do come across an arrest of offense we would contact a local police agency internet arrests over to them unless they're not available then one of our full-time deputies will go down and take the arrest or will turn it over to the New York State Police 01:02:57.278 --> 01:02:59.278 Craig Cherry: sure 01:02:59.578 --> 01:03:01.578 Craig Cherry: office in schools 01:03:04.174 --> 01:03:06.174 Craig Cherry: and I did we get Chris molinelli back on I see him back on 01:03:52.802 --> 01:03:55.250 Carl DuBois: I wanted to just make a comment about the city of Newburgh I've had a very long relationship with the Christian Ministry or Fellowship over there and you know Reverend Briggs Valley Briggs and Nelson McAllister Rob black Macklemore's over there now so and they all have my cell phone number so you know we'rebe well 01:04:25.802 --> 01:04:28.261 Carl DuBois: published over there but you know when it comes to City of Newburgh you know we come in at their request the city of middle at the city of Newburgh so Police Department's request so you know our presidents over there is on a limited basis but again you know we are hoping to be invited you know by by mr. Rodriguez or you know any other group over there you know to come in and you know chat you know talk about the mean emission and roll the Sheriff's Office but we do have a long-established relationshipCity 01:04:54.819 --> 01:04:56.819 Carl DuBois: especially with the police chief Beauchamp door and some other the community leaders over there so you know and I have a vested interest in an Uber because my son lives there so like I say we've been very active over there and are aware of you know some of the issues you know unfortunately we can't solve everything but we are open to discussion and always remain available to help 01:05:10.677 --> 01:05:12.677 Craig Cherry: well for the we do not see any other public comment and we have a couple of our members with some technical difficulties unfortunately 01:05:28.417 --> 01:05:30.417 Craig Cherry: and so what we will do here though is there any closing comments from anyone any of the topics we covered tonight anything that we didn't really put out there for the regards to any of these important topics 01:05:57.476 --> 01:05:59.476 Inaudy Esposito: specifically 01:06:28.006 --> 01:06:30.379 Inaudy Esposito: youth of color there's something that has been happening and happens continuously in different circles for example there is an interagency countywide meeting that takes place for the last few years because of the recent events because of the increase of police presence in schools this meeting includes superintendents from throughout the entire County in addition to County folks you know we talked about this and it is a concern that's brought upand 01:07:00.456 --> 01:07:02.806 Inaudy Esposito: the superintendent's are well aware of it and for the most part make sure that it's either addressed or spoken about but it's not something that exists in a vacuum we are definitely talking about it and make sure that you know we bring up the concerns because it's a very valid concern for specially some use of color to have police presence there's always conversations and emphasis around the importance of building those relationships and ships like it has been mentioned already 01:07:07.157 --> 01:07:09.157 Inaudy Esposito: between young people haven't law enforcement so I just wanted to make sure that that was added 01:07:25.501 --> 01:07:27.501 Craig Cherry: thank you and that's always been a thought of law enforcement that the more they can have one on one contact I mean law enforcement always thought that way it's not new thinking law enforcement is always thought that the more one-on-one contact they can have with youth and members of the community but better relationship they're going to have 01:07:28.938 --> 01:07:30.938 Kenneth Jones: and Ken Jones here for a second 01:07:59.779 --> 01:08:01.779 Kenneth Jones: I can't think of a worse outcomes than to exclude police officers that can interact with young people in school settings under the right conditions rather than exclude them especially in schools that are dominated by people of color to exclude police officers from that environment I think it's a backward step that's not going to give an opportunity to build Bridges at all if you're not there 01:08:04.635 --> 01:08:06.635 Kenneth Jones: very obvious that no Bridge can be built 01:08:39.733 --> 01:08:42.242 Carl DuBois: sheriff sheriff the boys here in you know and now he's a good a good resource to have out there her being with Human Rights Commission and not that we talked a lot but you know anytime I need to reach out for her she reaches out to me like I say which is not that often which is a good thing I guess you know and Audi's a good a good resource out there and you know to you know to be a liaison with the Sheriff's Office to because she's you know she understands what's going on and you know we you know wewe 01:09:17.657 --> 01:09:20.015 Anthony Weed: if I could Tony weed from Sheriff's Office we ran across some of those difficulties when we first started putting our deputies in the schools but we've had a very positive impact to the point where now kids are shaking hands with the deputies that are working are there high five and two deputies and that's that's the goal that's what we're looking for to have that you know understanding and cooperation and interaction to positive interaction with the with the kids on a daily basis 01:10:03.234 --> 01:10:05.486 Craig Cherry: that we areasked 01:10:25.142 --> 01:10:27.577 Craig Cherry: down in the provide those comments that we want for our final plan and we'll move forward our goal is to have our plans submitted to the public safety committee meeting for the for the February meeting some of that plan can be adopted by the committee and sent on to the legislature for the March meeting with thatwith a car